Showing posts with label Tear Pads. Show all posts
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Sunday, July 10, 2016

Ebay Coupon Selling Policy Simplified





Hello everyone. I see , as usual, lots of misinformation online regarding what eBay's actual coupon selling policy is. So with this post we willy simplify it step by step to help you better actually understand what really takes place and why your listings may get flagged, removed and your account potentially suspended, which no one wants.

The actual eBay coupon policy is linked here.  

This is what one account can do:

You may sell up to $100 or 25 valid, unexpired, original coupons per month. 

What this means is that you can sell literally only 25 coupons that are valid, original and unexpired per month per account and combined they cannot a value of $100.00. Simple enough.

Example of correct listing: (25) Save $1.00 off XXX product coupons. 
Example of listing that can get removed: (50) random assorted grocery food coupons. Or : (25) Save $10 off purchase of $100 or more at Kroger coupons.

These are the restrictions:

Multi-quantity listings: You can't sell more than 25 coupons in a single listing. The allowed 25 coupons per month include multi-quantity listings.

This translates into no more than 25 per listing. So you can't sell more than 25 coupons in a single listing at all or if you have 25 of an item and the coupon is say more than $4.00 off an item and you are trying to sell them individually with a quantity of 25. You can't do that either as it would go over the $100 max value mark.

Make sure you clearly state in your description how many coupons you're selling. If we can't tell how many coupons are offered, the listing violates our policy.

This should be self explanatory. Here is an example of a listing violation: "Random lot of grocery food coupons in envelope as shown in picture."

This is what you absolutely cannot do:

Coupons for "free" products: You can't sell coupons for "free" products. This restriction includes coupons for free items, or coupons where the coupon holder buys a quantity of items at one price, and receives additional items for free. 

The translation here is "No Bogos" and none of those coupons you get from like Coke rewards stating "Have a Free Coke on Us." Nope can't do that anymore either.

Electronic "scanned" coupons: All coupons sold through eBay must be physical coupons printed on paper, not coupons that can be sent electronically to the buyer to be printed. Also, to reduce the potential for coupon fraud, don't include unaltered scans of coupons in their listings that could be copied, printed, and redeemed in stores.Note: The sale of scanned or photocopied coupons may violate federal copyright laws, and sellers of unlawful items like these could face prosecution under federal law. We don't allow the sale of these kinds of coupons.


  
The translation here is you can't sell electronic coupon "codes" or a percent off or pay for a file that you can print and bring into a store to try an redeem. Yup, that has actually happened. These are usually fraudsters getting you to pay a ridiculously cheap price like (Pay $1 for a $10.00 off a fake pet food coupon) and indicate it is going to be delivered to you via email for you to print and use in the store after payment. That is actually a copyright violation at the least and could escalate from there. What they are saying is right, it's just probably not clear.

Coupons for recalled items: Coupons for items that have been recalled can't be listed on eBay.

This should be self-explanatory as well but we can't take anything for granted anymore. If there is say a massive recall of like "Cheerios" or something. You can't sell or buy "Cheerios" coupons.

Recalled coupons: Coupons that have been recalled can't be listed on eBay.

What this means is that if a coupon is "recalled" by the manufacturer there is an error in the terms, value or some other feature and if it is on their recall list (usually on their website) then you can't sell it on eBay. Usually they are recalled by the manufacturer more often than not because fraudsters have figured out a way to manipulate the coupon to make mass fake quantities of them for resale or change the value, etc. That's really what a "recalled coupon" is.
Coupon Inserts: Coupon inserts containing numerous coupons commonly found in Sunday papers or delivered with your mail or to your door.

This actually is simple, but people just don't seem to get this one either. This means you can't sell your Red Plum, P&G, Unilever, Smart Source, Kroger, Shop Rite, etc insert you would get in your Sunday newspaper in any quantity whatsoever.

So anyone you see on a forum or message board asking about this and complaining either doesn't understand you can't sell coupon inserts on eBay (no matter how many coupons are in them), is a troll or just lost. However, the eBay coupon policy doesn't seem to apply to fast food coupons such as Burger King, McDonald's, Wendy's, Long John Silvers, Chiptole etc. Since I assume from a legal standpoint they aren't actually the manufacturers of the food themselves but a reseller of the items after prepared. Those companies don't care how many coupons they redeem because these days, they are just happy to get you in the door. They won't be calling the CIC anytime soon I can promise you that, especially Chiptole and their eColi burrito meals.

 The most important thing eBay does not tell you in regards to the 25 coupon / $100 limit is..

It's based on a calendar month structure of which the clock begins on the day you list it. If you list your lot of 25 coupons or $100  value say on August 1st. Duration and format don't matter. You cannot relist another lot of coupons for 30 calendar days. So your next listing on same account, couldn't begin until September 2nd to be safe. After that October 3rd and so on. Initially we believed it was on a calendar month structure but after numerous conversations with numerous eBay reps they actually all confirmed the same uniform response that it is actual real-time date. It is tracked on your account. And you will be flagged and your listing removed immediately if you don't follow this simple rule. It's unstated and you have to find out the hard way but this is how it is.
Now we understand that about 50% of the coupon listings on eBay still violate these policies above. We also know that people have multiple accounts (which when spotted is really easy to identify) that also violate this policy. We hate this policy and the logic behind it right along with you. But we have to work with what the CIC and the large retailers allow us peons to work with to make our $5-$10 a month extra for a 1/4 tank of gas I guess. Our advise is simple: If you see a listing violation on eBay - report it. It may not get removed that second, but it will eventually. That or retro-removed. There is no conspiracy. There is no selective enforcement. It's a simple matter of when someone at eBay looks at it (I've found mid afternoons are great for reporting) and gets it off of their site. It may be before the auction ends or it may be after it ends. They don't want the CIC breathing down their necks anymore with nonsense threats and lawsuits. So it's easier for them to just remove a listing than deal with all of that.

eBay is a large place, with lots of moving parts, I know we want everything done now now now but that's often not how things work with large corporations. Especially eBay who well, often takes a couple of quarters to make adjustments if enough people freak out.

Once again, we can thank the CIC, P&G, Unilever, General Mills, Red Plum, Smart Source with their six figure salaries and paid international vacations as well as the idiots who still try to commit coupon fraud for all of this.

And don't forget, eBay lost millions of dollars in fees yearly in order to put this policy in place due to the threat of a faux lawsuit spearheaded by the CIC and the companies above toward the end of the Extreme Couponing frenzy we all loved (or hated.) So before you go slamming eBay for this one, please step up your knowledge and education on this history of why this is like it is and who is to blame. 

Not like it matters anymore, since the tear pads we used to sell for popular items have vanished from the stores over the past two years and the actual coupons you get in the paper are pretty much worthless since no one double or triple coupons anymore. Hell, they aren't even worth stealing.

I'm coming up on my monthly allotment time and I can't even find a tear pad to take worth selling! 

Extreme Couponing is dead my friends, the eBay Coupon Selling Policy was basically the final nail in the coffin for all of us in September of 2013. 

For those who are continuing the struggle by selling coupons on eBay we applaud you for your efforts. I hope this posting has shed some light on how the eBay coupon policy really works so hopefully we can enlighten the many who seem to be confused about it.

Thank you.


Saturday, March 22, 2014

Extreme Couponing Spring 2014 - Retailer's Revenge -Where have the Tearpads Gone?


Seeing a tearpad in your local Wal Mart or Supermarket like the one above would be an extreme couponer or an eBay reseller's dream come true now wouldn't it?

Be nice if they existed today. 

I'm not talking about the specific product above - I'm talking about tearpads in general..

For the better part of 2014 so far, the usual "Spring Fling" of tearpad season that usually starts right after the Super Bowl has kind of well, started off as cold and frigid as this past winter has been.

I thought it was just me, or my area why I am not seeing the usual Vitamin Water, Smart Water, Fuze, Gatorade, Powerade, or anything for that matters' tear pads in the stores. Figure after being blitzkreiged for the better part of the past four years with tear pads being resold, I figured my area just decided to slow it down.

Well, it's not just my area - and the tactics are getting pretty frigging ridiculous.

You don't find them on eBay either like you used to, lighting up the Category of Inside the Home -> Home & Garden -> Food Coupons either. People don't list in that category anymore and if you resell them and wonder why you get hit with limits, that would be why. People have found alternative means.

But even any of the item-specific searches above pull up well, next to nothing.  Good luck finding even those candy-bar coupons for things, nope, those are all removed before they are put on the floor also. For fuck's sake they even took all of the Deep Woods OFF! coupons off of their shippers right after putting them on the floor for sale. I mean, like no one really cared enough to sell those anyway.

This directive has come from somewhere. From the retailers? From the stores themselves? From the companies issuing them? No one quite knows why. Here are some prime examples for coupon tearpad hunting in 2014 - extreme. These are the worst of the worst:

Super Bowl Sunday. A massive shipper of Doritos and Doritos Salsa arrives in my two local Wal Marts. Six full tear pads on each. REJOICE !! Better check that expiration date. They were put out on Saturday 02/03/2014 and expired on Super Bowl Sunday, 02/04/2014. You know where a few of them thar full tear pads wound up? On the floor being kicked around by children. Did I contribute to that? You bet I did. I bet those shippers were sitting in the back for a month and the vendor just put them out on that Saturday giving you ONE DAY to use them and no window to resell them or keep for a sale to use in the future. There ya go Wal Mart, you're not the only one who can play games.

This week. Local 7-11's and other convenience stores in the area FINALLY received the yearly Simply Beverages .55/1 tear pads. It was a sight for sore eyes. A closer inspection saw the expiration date of these to be 03/31/2014. Are you fucking kidding me? You put these out on 03/21/2014 with 10 days before they expire.  Can't sell them, no store doubles over .50 in my area so I can't use them the way I want. I left them there. Good luck. Nice way to lose sales. You can add Simply Beverages to the Unilever Boycott based on their poor coupon practices and distribution.

Even United Supermarkets got in on the action in January. A MASSIVE shipper of tear pads for those Velvetta Blocks ($5.99 retail) with about 200 coupons on each hit the floor last week of January of this year. I found them on 01/25/2014 and they weren't there the week before. You know when they expired right? 01/31/2014. If you tell me that store planned on selling almost 1,000 Velveeta Cheese Blocks in six days with no sale going on, I will call you a god damn liar.

Is this what we have to look forward to? Shorter expiration dates on tear pads or them being held back to the point of not being useful except for impulse buyers at all? Not like you can sell hundreds of them online anymore especially on eBay. So what's the rationale? Retribution for all of the years people made some pocket change selling them and they got into the hands of people that actually wanted to purchase and buy the products? This is backwards if you ask me.

It smells like another episode of Retailer's Revenge to me. Stay tuned. Maybe these instances were just an abberation (cough cough.) Right.

Thank you for reading.